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How Did Philadelphia get to the Finals in 2001?

July 24, 2006 · 11 Comments

Over the last few posts I have focused on scorers and role players.  The story of Philadelphia in 2001 continues this tale.  Here are the questions I wish to address:

First, if Iverson is not one of the game’s great players, how did Philadelphia reach the NBA Finals in 2001?

Second, what happened to Philadelphia after 2001?

Okay, those are the questions. Let’s begin with the 2001 season. That year the 76ers won 56 games, the most Philadelphia has ever won in the Iverson era.  If we sum the Wins Produced on this team, we get 52.4 wins. If Iverson only produced 5.2 wins, who produced the other 47.2?  Recall my discussion of scorers and role players.  Philadelphia only had one full-time scorer that season, and that was Iverson. Consequently, as the first table listed HERE indicates, the wins on that team came mostly from its role players.  Specifically, the team was led by George Lynch , Aaron McKie, and Tyrone Hill.

Now let me stop right there.  People are going to say, a team of Lynch, McKie, and Hill wouldn’t have won many games.  Certainly they would not have made the NBA Finals.  That is almost certainly true, but that does not invalidate the analysis.  As I have argued, a team needs both scorers and role players to be successful.  A team of all role players will likely fail.  A team of all scorers, much like the New York Knicks this past season, will also fail to win many games.  In sum, you can’t win with a team of players like Ben Wallace. But you also can’t win with a team of players like Allen Iverson or Stephon Marbury, either.

So both role players and scorers are important.  But as indicated HERE, some teams rely more on scorers, others rely more on role players.  What path has Philadelphia taken?  As indicated HERE over the past six years it is the role players who have led Philadelphia.  The production of these players seems to dictate the ultimate fortunes of the team.  To see this, let’s look at what happened after 2001.

Dikembe Mutombo came in the midst of the 2000-01 season and in 2001-02 led the team in Wins Produced.  Matt Harpring came on the scene that season, also, and turned out to be the second most productive player.  Other productive players on this team included Eric Snow, Aaron McKie, and even Derrick Coleman.

Moving on, the next season Philadelphia was led by its guards.  Mutombo and Harpring were gone, but Snow, McKie, and even Iverson led the team in Wins Produced.   But these three guards were not the whole story.  The top eight players in minutes played combined to produce 46.3 wins.  None of these players were truly phenomenal, and all but Iverson and Van Horn were role players.  Still, most of these top eight players were above average performers and their efforts resulted in the 48 wins we saw in the final standings. 

The next season the wheels came off the bus.  The team added Glenn Robinson to assist Iverson in scoring.  Robinson, as we note in The Wages of Wins, was not very productive in 2003-04.  Furthermore, Iverson got hurt.  Without any scorers, a key input in the NBA production process, the team of strictly role players was not very successful – although Samuel Dalembert, Kenny Thomas, Eric Snow, and Aaron McKie were individually above average players.  Beyond these four players, though, the 76ers basically received no substantial contribution from anyone and the team could only win 33 games.

In 2004-05 the team rebounded to 43 wins, although the summation of wins produced was only 39.  The team had five above average performers: Andre Iguodala, Allen Iverson, Kyle Korver, Samuel Dalembert, and Aaron McKie.  These five players – one scorer and four role players – produced virtually all the team wins. 

This last season Iguodala, Iverson, and Dalembert still played well.  Korver, though, declined substantially and McKie was gone.  With these two role players no longer contributing, and no one available to replace this lost production, the team only won 38 games. 

So what have we learned about Iverson and the 76ers? For the past six years this team has tried to win with one scorer and a collection of role players. When that one scorer played and the role players were productive, the team was good.  But if the scorer was gone, the team does not appear to have players who can step into the scoring job.  So the team plays badly.  Furthermore, if the role players do not produce, the team also suffers.

In sum, Philadelphia does not simply rise and fall with Iverson. Iverson is important to this team, but only because he is one of the few scorers this team employs.  So when Iverson is gone, the team of role players suffers.  Despite this impact, I would argue that it is the role players that primarily determined whatever success Philadelphia has had these past six seasons.  These players may not be noticed by many fans, but the data says that it is the role players who have produced most of the wins Philadelphia fans have seen these past few years.   

- DJ

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11 responses so far ↓

  • art kyriazis // July 27, 2006 at 3:33 pm

    Dear Dr. Berri:

    First, you are asserting that statistically, the role players on the sixers are worth more wins than the star, Iverson. I think that bespeaks the failures of your statisitical system. Clearly, a winshares system should demostrate that the best player accounts for the most winshares while the role players account for fewer or the same amounts of winshares, although in 2000-2001 Aaron McKie was voted Sixth Man of the Year.

    I will address the statistical analysis that asserts that Dikembe Mutombo and Matt Harpring were the best players on the Sixers team in 2001-2002 in terms of win shares.

    First, Dikembe Mutombo, while a great half-court player, defender and rebounder, couldn’t run. Unlike Ratliff, who had played with the Sixers for three years before, and whose trade to the sixers for Jerry Stackhouse had triggered the Sixers playoff run in the late 90s, Mutombo was strickly a half-court player. This style of play was ineffective for Iverson, who needed to handle the ball in transition and on the break off the steal.

    Your system tends to look at the game statically and does not distinguish between possessions which are in transision and those which are in the half-court game. Iverson is a superior transition player while Mutombo is a superior half-court player. Their skills are complementary, but not supplementary and they can’t both run at the same time.

    Matt Harpring’s year here was a total disaster. He was never in sync with the rest of the ball club. He basically concentrated on his own statistics and did not do anything to help the club win. The coach, Larry Brown, never played him in any meaningful situations and generally used him in garbage time against bad teams. Again, I watched nearly all the games that year, and your statistics do not distinguish between games against bad and good opponents. Matt Harpring is the greatest garbage time player I’ve ever seen–if the team was down twenty points, he’d go in for uncontested lay up after uncontested layup. But if the team needed a basket desperately, he’d never take a shot, but pass it off to someone who was double covered. The guy didn’t have a clue how to play basketball.

    His later fate on Utah shows that he had a problem with black ballplayers. He was more comfortable with John Stockton and the “white” Utah ballclub and was never comfortable with the Iverson-led philly ballclub and its very different cultural emphasis.

    I will admit that Tyrone Hill and George Lynch were key members of the 2000-01 team. Trading them was the beginning of the downfall of the Sixers. I would foresee that Lynch’s and Hill’s defense and rebounding and economical shooting would account for high win share totals, higher than average, and make them good role players to have by Iverson’s side.

    Overall, I believe this is a useful line of analysis.

    But the ferocious attack on Iverson you have mounted, given that Iverson will likely score between 35,000 and 40,000 points in his career and go into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot, seems racially motivated to me, and especially calculated to ride on the coattails of his fame.

    Mr. Iverson is a dedicated family man, he has done nothing in the league which would merit any bad comment compared with many others like Charles Barkeley, who once spit on a young girl in Philly and was arrested for weapons possession in South Jersey while a Sixer, or like the Pistons and Pacers, who attacked fans in the seats a season or two back, or Latell Sprewell, who punched out his coach several seasons back, or like Eddie Griffin, with his drug problems, or like all of the players in the league with multiple illegitimate children whose child support they don’t pay.

    Iverson is the #1 adored superstar and #1 road draw not just in the USA, but in the world. He is known in China, Japan, Europe, everywhere in the world people know Iverson and kids everywhere want the sneakers of the answer.

    He may miss shots when he’s cold, but I’ve also seen him make 20 in a row in the 4th quarter to bring the sixers back from a 30 point deficit and it’s a thing of beauty to watch a man that’s but 5′9″ tall navigate his way among the trees to do his art and float on air like Dr. J to finger roll the ball into the basket.

    Iverson is a legend, like Wilt, like Bill Russell, like Jerry West. Nothing you say or write will alter the fact that he is responsible for every win the sixers get every time he steps on the floor.

    I believe that like the early versions of win shares that Bill James worked with, it will take ten years or more to perfect a basketball win shares system that fully accounts for differences between arenas, styles of play, differences between eras, etc.

    Iverson’s is a style of play. He throws all those shots up and drives to the basket repeatedly INTENTIONALLY–it’s to tire out the defense so that by the fourth quarter, they can’t guard him anymore, they’re a step slow, and then he can go to work driving, passing, jump shooting and passing to the open man.

    If you guys actually watched a game instead of just summarizing stats, you’d see how Iverson breaks down an entire defense with his mode of play. He’s not wasting shots.

    When the Sixers had a very good defense, this style of play worked very well. So long as they only allowed 90 ppg, they could win this way. Larry Brown wanted them to play this way.

    Iverson is a loaded weapon. Beware.

    –art k, philly

  • Jake // July 28, 2006 at 2:26 pm

    First and foremost, art, i want you to know that i am also from philly.

    Your decision to cast the iverson debate as one of race is terrible. It is clear from everything written on this site that the authors are not at al motivated by race. Never once has anything written here referred to that factor.

    What the authors have done is show that the statistic that most people care about the most (as it is the easiest to understand and observe) is points. However, other factors like effeciency, and the ability to spot someome else from scoring are noticed and measure far less.

    Additionally, I would bet every penny i have ever earned, and ever will earn, that allen iverson has never made 20 consecutive field goals in the 4th quarter of a game. Nor has he ever braught the team back from a 30 point deficit in the fourth quarter.

    While he is exciting to watch, and extremely entertaining, he has become a detriment to the team. As good as he is, his domination of the basketball means that it will only be untll he leaves that Andre Iguadala, Rodney Carney, Sam Dalembert, and Kyle Korver can fully mature as players.

  • art kyriazis // December 12, 2006 at 4:49 am

    Re: Jake’s comment

    (1) with Iverson, it’s always about race. No white superstar with his qualifications would be forced to go to practice or forced to be traded in mid-career.

    (20 Iuguodala is the only player on that list with promise. Korver, Carney, Dalembert are replacement level or worse in this league. What happens when Iverson doesn’t play for the Sixers is that Korver and Green take more shots, which against the Blazers last night ended up with a line of Green shooting 2 for 9 and Korver shooting 5 for 20, a combined 7 for 29, which is substantially WORSE than a bad Iverson night.

    They also had fewer assists, rebounds and steals than Iverson would have had.

    Oh, and when the score was close in the last three minutes, the Sixers had no one to go to to get a winning shot off.

    You need a superstar shooter like Barkley, Erving, Iverson, Kobe to go to in the last five minutes of any NBA game to win the game because all NBA games come down to the last five minutes. All this talk about rebounding and teamwork is horse manure. These games are scoring races that end up decideded in the last five minutes.

    Iverson was great at that. Just a week before this debacle precipitated by the aging and increasingly senile Ed Snider, who recently sacked Stanley Cup winners Ken Hitchcock and Bobby Clarke just last month, and now has gone out of his way to fire NBA MVP Iverson, all in the same just-before-christmas pleasant way he has (of course, he doesn’t actually celebrate christmas, being that he seemingly is Scrooge personified, having previously fired Pat Croce, Larry Brown and many others just before Christmas).

    Snider is a conservative who worships Ayn Rand.

    By the way, your stats are wrong. AI brought the Sixers back from a 30 point deficit on five occasions, look them up in the press book. He has scored 40 or more points on more than sixty occasions, and although Toney still holds the 4th quarter point record, AI holds all the other point records for all the other quarters.

    Iverson has never been a detriment to any team.

    Finally, by the win share analysis method, AI’s two strongest seasons were his last two, in which he had at least 11 win shares each to go with Iguodala’s 13 each.

    The only player who will get more points if AI departs is Iguodala, who will have to score 20 a game if AI departs.

    There is no player on the Sixers roster worth developing other than Iguodala. Everyone else should be traded and the roster started from scratch, except I would keep Webber until the end of his contract.

    I would take the deal from Boston and bring back Theo Ratliff to shore up the internal defense; bring back Delonte West to take over at point guard and distribute the ball, and also he is a young player; and also bring back a shooting and rebounding forward and some draft picks. I’d want size and a point guard from Boston.

    Then I’d see about moving Webber for more draft picks later in the season to a contender looking for help for the playoffs.

    By the way, wherever AI goes, Larry Brown is sure to follow.

    –art kyriazis, philly

  • art kyriazis // December 12, 2006 at 4:55 am

    P.S. I can’t bet every penny I’ve ever earned;

    (1) I don’t bet
    (2) that’s way too much money to count, dude
    (3) you shoulldn’t bet, you should invest in stocks and bonds and real estate, didn’t you learn anything from freakonomics and economics, pal? more than 50% of my earnings are from investments, not from paychecks or work for hire agreements. You need to invest if you want to make money.
    (4) Don’t gamble, don’t drink, don’t smoke, work hard and show up on time.
    (5) I never, ever go to sports bars. A complete waste of time.
    (6) I spend all my sports watching time with my kids. They’re smarter and they like watching the games more, plus I give them coaching tips for when they play hoops or baseball themselves.
    I NEVER hang out with the guys. I left that behend about 20 years ago.

    –art kyriazis, philly

  • art kyriazis // December 12, 2006 at 4:58 am

    PPS

    Everything in the United States is about race, from the Civil War to Reconstruction to Jim Crow to Jackie Robinson to the NBA being all black while baseball is all white to about a thousand other things in our society. Let’s add immigration and the fact that all our jobs are being exported overseas because China and India are supposedly better workers but we want to close the borders to immigrants because Chinese and Indians aren’t better workers????? Why should big business get the advantage of all this cheap labor while small business gets screwed out of a cheap reliable labor pool that’s skilled?

    –art kyriazis, philly

  • Jack Sadler // January 12, 2007 at 8:40 pm

    Hey Art Kyriazi!

    “Snider is a conservative who worships Ayn Rand” Ha!

    Are you a fan of James Inman?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXSWjVzdaF8

    BTW I miss Iverson too. I really thought they had built a good team around him this year. I thought too many games this year and last were dependent on whether Korver could come up with a bunch of 3s.
    I think maybe Iguodala could develop into a Jordan like style of play.
    I think Iverson needed guys like Snow and Coleman, but maybe now Carmello will need a guy like Iverson.

  • Eric Tompson // February 22, 2007 at 8:46 pm

    Great analysis of the stats there. I’d agree wholeheartedly with you… if you have a bunch of people that only do one thing, you won’t get anywhere. It’s sorta like with real estate… you can’t build a house with a team of plumbers. Btw, I’m also a Sixers fan :)
    Eric
    New York Real Estate

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  • Nadum // March 14, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Did you even watch the 2001 Sixers?

  • VS // May 13, 2008 at 9:09 am

    How can people argue this so vehemently when the sixers obviously did not suffer from his loss and the nuggets obviously did not benefit?
    Art you’re retarded get off a statistical analysis site if you want to spout stupid shit that’s been disputed over and over again. If you REALLY want to talk about “clutch” which I don’t because it’s stupid, has Iverson even made a game-winning shot yet? I know that around 7 or 8 seasons in he hadn’t, and I doubt he’s made one since.
    OK I’m done here.
    Thank you for your time.

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