In the regular season Leon Powe posted a 13.68 Win Score per 48 minutes [WS48]. WS48 for an average power forward is 10.45, so Powe’s PAWS48 [Position Adjusted Win Score per 48 minutes] was 3.23. And that would be very good.
Across the first three rounds the playoffs, though, Powe’s WS48 fell to 5.31. This results in a PAWS48 of -5.14. Of course that is very, very bad. As noted a few days ago, although most people focused on the struggles of Ray Allen in explaining Boston’s post-season problems, it was the decline of Powe that was the bigger issue for the Celtics.
And now we have reached the NBA Finals. Powe only played nine minutes in Game One. But in these nine minutes he grabbed four rebounds, hit his only field goal attempt, hit both of his free throw attempts, and only committed one personal foul. All of this means his WS48 and PAWS48 stood at 29.3 and 18.9 respectively.
Again, Powe only played nine minutes. So his PAWS was only 3.5. Still, this mark was only eclipsed by Paul Pierce (the hero of Game One).
In Game Two Powe appears to have played even better. In fifteen minutes he made six of seven field goal attempts and nine of thirteen shots from the free throw line. In all, he scored 21 points. Such a performance clearly was a main topic in the post-game discussion.
But when we look at all his stats we see a couple of issues. In fifteen minutes Powe committed four personal fouls. At this rate, he would have fouled out of the game in less than eight more minutes. Plus, he only grabbed two rebounds. Yes, a power forward was on the court for fifteen minutes and only grabbed two boards (that would be well below average).
Now when you make six out of seven shots you are going to have a “good” game. Despite the failure to rebound, Powe’s WS48 was an amazing 24.0. His PAWS48 of 13.6 was the top mark in the game. But I think many observers would guess that Powe’s per-minute contribution in Game Two eclipsed what he did in Game One. And the numbers suggest otherwise. In both games Powe was amazing. He just did a bit more on a per-minute basis in the first contest.
The Top Players in Game Two
Okay, enough on Powe. What of the other participants in the game?
Table One: Analyzing Game Two of the 2008 NBA Finals
Table One indicates that Boston was again led in PAWS by Paul Pierce, who posted a mark of 4.6. Boston was also helped by the play of James Posey (4.4 PAWS), Rajon Rondo (4.4 PAWS), and Powe (4.2 PAWS). The big men – P.J. Brown, Kevin Garnett, and Kendrick Perkins – all hovered around the average mark; while Ray Allen and Sam Cassell were each below average.
Turning to the Lakers… Derrick Fisher led the Lakers in Game One with a PAWS of 2.6. In Game Two, three Lakers – Pau Gasol, Vladimir Radmanovic, and Kobe Bryant – all bested Fisher’s mark in Game One. Gasol was above average in Game One, and also in the first three rounds of the playoffs and the regular season. Radmanovic was also above average in Game One, but decidedly below average in the first three rounds of the playoffs and the regular season. So if past performance means something, we can expect Gasol to keep playing well while a decline in Radmanovic’s production will not surprise.
The Kobe Story
And then we have Kobe. Here is what Kobe has done against the Celtics in 2007-08:
November 23 (at Boston): 5.2 [WS48], -1.0 [PAWS48]
December 30 (at LA): -7.8 [WS48], -14.0 [PAWS48]
Game One NBA Finals: -3.4 [WS48], -9.6 [PAWS48]
In 82 regular season games, Kobe was only below average 21 times (yes, he is pretty good). Against Boston, though, he was below average every time.
At least, that was true until Game Two. In Game Two, Kobe posted a WS48 and PAWS48 of 10.8 and 3.8 respectively. So Kobe was finally above average.
And now he is headed back to LA. Of course, if you look at the above numbers you will note that Kobe’s worst game against Boston occurred in LA. In fact, this game occurred in a stretch of 12 contests where LA’s only loss was at home against Boston. This was also Kobe’s worst game of the season (and it happened after a night off).
In sum, it’s not necessarily the case that Kobe and the Lakers will play better in LA. Unfortunately, if they do not, they have no hope of taking this series back to Boston. And if that doesn’t happen, the Lakers have no hope of winning a title in 2008.
Of course, if Andrew Bynum comes back and is productive, the Lakers will probably win the whole thing next year. In other words, even two more losses to Boston in the next few days just postpones Phil Jackson’s 10th title (and Kobe’s 4th).
- DJ
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Wins Produced, Win Score, and PAWSmin are also discussed in the following posts:
Simple Models of Player Performance
What Wins Produced Says and What It Does Not Say
Introducing PAWSmin — and a Defense of Box Score Statistics
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14 responses so far ↓
TBall // June 9, 2008 at 5:22 pm
How about a thought on the free throw discrepency. Anomaly or a sign of home team favoritism?
Two thoughts. First, the Celtics have averaged 7 more foul calls per game over the four games with LA this year. Second, in Game 5 against Detroit, the Celtics commited the same number of fouls (21) at home, but the Pistons visited the charity stripe 38 times.
ilikeflowers // June 10, 2008 at 10:19 am
Here’s a LOL quote that I found today -
“On a skill level, they are equal — no ifs, ands or buts,” says Will Perdue, a former Jordan teammate and an ESPN analyst. “Kobe has worked on his game to be better than Michael. But he always has done something to screw up his public image.”
In all fairness, I believe that Will was only referring to the skill of dunking.
ilikeflowers // June 10, 2008 at 10:23 am
What’s really interesting about the fouls is that Boston committed 21 fouls to LA’s 28. This lends some credence to the notion that Boston shot more free throws primarily because they were more aggressive going to the basket.
I also saw a shot selection chart that demonstrated that LA was primarily shooting mid-range jumpers while Boston was shooting in the paint.
Vince Gagliano // June 10, 2008 at 11:15 am
Paul Pierce looks like a Finals MVP.
Or was it, dare I say, PAW Pierce.
Or maybe PAW Gasol.
Possibly even Leon PAW.
Okay, it’s really pronounced “po”, but I wanted to get off some incredibly corny puns.
Tyson // June 10, 2008 at 1:24 pm
In your system why do turnovers and missed field goal attempts count as having the same negative impact? Turnovers lead to a team losing possesion 100% of the time. I don’t know the numbers for field goal attempts, but I’m pretty sure some missed shots become offensive rebounds. Isn’t throwing up a desperation shot better than getting a 24-second shot clock violation?
Tyson // June 10, 2008 at 1:25 pm
The above comment has nothing to do with the article, it’s just been bugging me about your system.
porteno // June 10, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Tyson –
No model will be perfect. I think Dave would say that while you may have a point, considering that his model has such incredibly strong explanatory and predictive power while being pretty simple, the value of changing is so small compared to the increase in complexity (and calculation).
Jason // June 11, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Tyson, the model was derived by seeing what changes in particular stats do to the probability of winning. Empirically, it doesn’t appear that there’s a difference between a turnover and a missed shot. In isolation, they appear to have the same effect.
They are different in terms of what happens *after* the event. A missed shot can be followed up with an offensive rebound, but if that doesn’t happen, the result is the same, and the rebound itself is separate and awarded separately as an independent event.
It *is* better to get off a desperation shot because it has a chance of going in and a chance to be rebounded by the shooting team. This doesn’t make missing the shot less costly though. After the event, the *miss* (which no longer has that chance to go it, else it wouldn’t be a miss) that isn’t secured with an offensive rebound (which, again, is tracked independently) is identical in terms of game situation to the turnover, and empirical data indicates that they have these past events have the same effect.
Tyson // June 13, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Jason and porteno thanks for the responses, but I disagree. Turnovers are more costly to teams than missed shots. If Joe Smith throws the ball the ball out of the bounds, the other team automatically gets possesion. If Joe Smith takes a shot and misses, the other team usually gets possesion but not all the time as in the case of the turnover. Of course if the other team rebounds the ball then the effect is the same as a turnover, but not every missed shot results in a defensive rebound.
Here’s an example where missed shots could be misleading: Joe Smith misses a shot; LeBron gets the rebound and passes to Smith who shoots again and this time makes it. Win Score would say that Smith did not contribute (2 points – 2 field goal attempts = 0) and give LeBron all of the credit for the field goal. That doesn’t make sense. Maybe most of the credit belongs to LeBron but certainly not all of it. Smith did make the shot and no possesions were wasted.
This may seem like a small thing, but it really isn’t in the case of Allen Iverson who is considered an all-time great by the majority of NBA fans but only an average player by this website. The negative impact of missed shots has been exaggerated and since Iverson misses more shots than anybody (at least he did with Philly), he is underrated by this system.
porteno // June 13, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Tyson, it’s a M-O-D-E-L. Not everything will be perfect.
That said, your assertions have been hashed out many times.
Tyson // June 14, 2008 at 4:58 pm
I just found this site a few weeks ago so sorry if I brought up topics that have already been discussed. I just read the post explaining wins produced and win score. I thought win score was the final model this site used to determine a player’s value not just a handy little metric. The points I brought up were true though
porteno // June 15, 2008 at 5:40 am
No, they aren’t.
Tyson // June 15, 2008 at 5:17 pm
What did I say that wasn’t true?
1) A turnover leads to a loss of possession 100% of the time.
2) A missed shot does not lead to a loss of possession 100% of the time.
3) In the Joe Smith example I usedat 2:13, he deserved at least some credit for the two points he scored.
porteno // June 15, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Let’s try an analogy: if I find one Mexican centavo on the ground, am I any wealthier?