The main attacks on the metric were an apparent bias to total rebounds, mainly because that “good defense without getting a block or steal” was assigned to the def. rebound stat, by regression. But, there should be a good correlation between good rebounders and good shot defenders, then when we talk about def. rebounds in this metric, we need to attach the shot defense (bigs end anyway defending the most of shots), the overrating is not as big as one could think.

But, more harmful and less controversial is the fact that scorers are punished not only every time they fail (with a full lost possession), but also every time they made the scoring, because the metric considers a kind of “original sin” that scorers need to take purge for the team “to lose” the possession after the scoring. Of course that undervalue high usage scorers and is interpreted as undervaluing ‘creating shots”.

The comments, for example, note that only $60 million of Bogut’s contract is guaranteed. That’s still alot, though. So figuring out a fair contract may not be as simple as multiplying wins produced by $1.67 million.

Does the exploitation of rookies and veteran superstars mean that above-average veteran roleplayers should look to be overpaid? And that teams should consider overpaying them? Or does it just mean that when they are paid what they are worth, it will look like they are overpaid?

Also. Marcus Camby is an absolutely awesome, dominant player on the boards, and is arguably the best defensive player in the planey. Before you start trying to look smart and bring up the “infallability” of this site, I challenge YOU to read the “tragedies of KG and Paul Pierce,” and watch a Nuggets game or two.

You wont find many people on the planet who would say Camby is the best player on that team, but he is, by a long shot. If you are going to bring something to the table, use concrete numbers, or at least make a compelling point for why Duncan is superior to Camby other than having far superior teammates and being a bigger scorer.

Sounds to me like you are fallible like everyone else who watches hoops.

Camby isn’t a good scorer, but he’s pretty good at everything else, and is almost definitely one of the most underrated players in the league. He is never really on bad teams. He’s a great complementary player.

And if WP48 is undervaluing something Duncan and Garnett do, it’s “creating shots” and “good defense without getting a block or a steal.” I believe those are the main attacks on the stat, based on the discussions that have happened repeatedly on this board.

Regarding the Bogut deal, it’s not totally unreasonable, and as a Bucks fan, I like that they’ve secured a good solid center. It’s a harder position to fill than SG or SF or something, because of the “short supply of tall people.”