For more than a century, sports owners have
- complained that players cost too much money.
- volunteered to pay some players more money than they are worth.
The latest example of the latter is the money the Atlanta Hawks will be paying Joe Johnson. Matthew Yglesias essentially captured the problem with the Johnson deal:
Johnson is a prototypical overrated NBA player. A perimeter scorer on a middling team who takes a lot of shots and therefore scores a lot without being notably efficient at it or notable good at any other aspect of the game. He’s not a bad player. In fact, he’s a good one. But he’s not great. And at his current age, the odds are that Atlanta is purchasing a declining asset. What’s odder is that nobody seems to deny this. Nobody thinks Johnson is going to improve. Nobody thinks Johnson is one of the top ten players in the game. Nobody thinks “Joe Johnson plus guys who are worse than Joe Johnson” sounds like a recipe for a championship.
Despite not being a “great” player, Johnson will be collecting $119 million across the next six seasons. And given his age, and past performance, here is a prediction of the production this money is going to buy.
Across Johnson’s first nine seasons he was paid $74,989,401. And as the above table indicates, he produced 56.1 wins. In other words, he was paid $1,336,019 per win.
Across Johnson’s next six seasons it is projected – given his age and productivity last season – 42.1 wins. With a price tag of $119 million, this works out to $2,827,937 per win. And if an entire 60 win team was paid this much per victory, it would cost the owner of the team $169,676,214 in payroll.
According to Patricia Bender, this is more than $100 million more than the Hawks paid their players last season. And it is about $80 million more than the Lakers were paid in 2009-10.
In sum, the deal the Hawks are making with Johnson is not very wise. But it is important that the Hawks are volunteering to pay Johnson $119 million. So as the NBA owners demand concessions from players, remember this deal.
Obviously what the owners want is a world where the rules prevent them from making these deals. Because – as the past century has made very obvious –many owners are incapable of stopping themselves.
– DJ
P.S. Do you like the shorter posts? This was a topic discussed during the panel on sports and blogging at the Western Economic Association. Justin Wolfers says the posts at Freakonomics are supposed to be 400 words or shorter. I responded that I struggled with the 800 word limit at Huffington Post. Although this is true, I am going to start trying to make whatever point I am trying to make (as if I am always trying to make a point) a bit quicker. And one last note… I am now back in Cedar City. So all the stuff I promised to post might appear soon.
StLreflections
July 6, 2010
The long form is something I cherish about this website, and one of the reasons I keep coming back-you write enough so that your argument is fully fleshed out.
arturogalletti
July 6, 2010
Prof,
Ditto on Stlreflections comments. I do think alternating between short and long form is a good idea ( the last five posts are a good examples of short-long posts)
Greg
July 6, 2010
Great point, great post. Why did the Hawks management do it? You might recall that in 2005 the Atlanta Spirit, LLC had an ownership battle over Billy Knight trading Boris Diaw and two 1st round picks to the Suns for Joe Johnson. Steve Belkin, one of the Spirit’s members, was dead set against the trade, believing that the Hawks were giving up too much. The other owners, led by Bruce Levenson, backed Billy Knight, the GM. Belkin lost the court battle and got bought out. The owners who backed Joe Johnson got control of the franchise. When Joe Johnson played above average for a few years, they all felt vindicated. Now they are paying him like a superstar, which he isn’t.
Belkin will have the last laugh.
This contract continues a bad managemen trend. The Hawks placed Rick Sund as GM in 2009. (Together with Wally Walker, he ran the Supersonics into the ground). He traded for Jamal Crawford last year — goodness gracious — and drafted Jeff Teague. This year he drafted Damion James, who looks like a solid overall player — but then Sun traded him to the Nets for Jordan Crawford, another offensive specialist.
Too bad Hawks fans. But you can take consolation that your not a Piston fan.
robbieomalley
July 6, 2010
Prof,
I prefer your posts long and rangy. Also full of intangibles and unlimited upside. It would also be great if you had a quick second bounce. I hear you run the floor like a deer.
Alvy
July 6, 2010
Shorter posts are best for when one needs to expand on an already existing articles or subjects previously discussed on this blog, similar to this particular date; however, some of your best post were actually quite long as they read like a history lesson (Bill Walton and the Trailblazers, Rodman vs. MJ, etc.)
Kevin Ferrigan
July 6, 2010
I really hope the Bulls are able to land Dwyane Wade and another significant FA. Ideally this would be David Lee, whose reduced maximum salary would allow the Bulls to add him without moving any of their other players.
It seems unlikely that LeBron will leave now, but Wade’s concerns about the lack of any players in Miami and his desire to be near his sons makes me think he could conceivably go to Chicago.
In this scenario, the Bulls roster would look like this:
Rose: WP48 .113
Wade: WP48 .291
Deng: WP48 .139
Lee: WP 48 .275
Noah: WP48 .272
It’d be an absolutely dominating starting 5, with Taj Gibson coming off the bench as a very good sixth man (WP48 .124).
DKH
July 7, 2010
I am more likely to read posts unrelated to my team(s) if they are shorter. For example, if this post became a drawn-out affair examining the cost per win of each Hawk player (over multiple seasons!), I probably wouldn’t have read it. That said, I likely would still have made it at least a couple hundred words in, so probably the main point would not be lost, if it was stated early.
Ben Guest
July 7, 2010
Put me down as a fan of the longer posts.
reservoirgod
July 7, 2010
Did Wolfers say why they try to limit posts at Freakonomics to 400 words? It seems to me the posts at that blog get ripped to shreds by the commenters because the bloggers don’t get to fully state/support their argument – it almost seems like a conscious decision to encourage more comments.
Michael
July 7, 2010
Who were the overpaid sports stars of 1910?
Michael
July 7, 2010
Also I prefer your longer posts, but the short ones are okay to keep things updated as well.
todd2
July 7, 2010
I’d think the merits of some of the outlandish contracts are based more on an owner’s expectations. The first question would be whether a franchise is profitable or not, and what the effect of making a run in the playoffs has on a team’s economic viability. The alternative is that that owning a franchise is simply a hobby and winning is less a priority, which is bad for fans. It’s hard to believe that some teams have repeatedly made bad decisions (some for decades) if their ownership really cared about winning. On a side note, it’s laughable that Nowitzki “settled” for only $20M/year in order to help the Mavs.
Chicago Tim
July 7, 2010
The important thing is content and quality, not the length of the posts. If done right, it can take longer to write short posts than long ones.
For example, the post linking to the 2010 NBA Free Agent Cheat Sheet was not long, but the work that went into creating the sheet was evident.
I frequent several blogs, and I see a mix of lengths, from quite long to short and frequent to a mix of long and short. What keeps me coming back is quality, not the size of the posts, long or short.
Joe
July 7, 2010
If it is too long and about a team I don’t care much about, I am pretty sure I start skimming.
arturogalletti
July 7, 2010
Espn reporting: Bosh,Wade to Miami. If I’m the raptors GM I do sign & trade just to nuke their Cap Room from Space.
brgulker
July 7, 2010
It’s not the size of the boat, it’s the motion of the ocean.
Alvy
July 7, 2010
Hell yeah! Wade County is back! I think he will win his first MVP next season.
nerdnumbers
July 7, 2010
Arturo,
I heard the coolest line ever on Mike and Mike this morning: “Miami offered Beasley in a sign and trade for Bosh, but Toronto didn’t want him.” First intelligent move Toronto’s made in a while. . . .
Later in the show they went on to claim Amare, Lebron and Melo would be amazing in NY. Of course I don’t know who else would play on the team but that would be a 40+ win team. . .
szr
July 7, 2010
Ugh. The hawks’ decision making make the wizards look like the model franchise – and the wizards only have two players who are above average performers at their position.
bags fly free
July 7, 2010
Do Wade and Bosh give Miami 40 or so wins combined based on last year’s WoW evaluation? if LBJ doesn’t join them I do not see them doing a whole lot better than last season (47 wins total)
arturogalletti
July 7, 2010
Bags fly free,
Did a quick post just for you on my lunch break. Click my name.
bags fly free
July 7, 2010
thanks arturo :) so miami will be same team as they were last year…hope wade and bosh enjoy their contracts!
TBall
July 7, 2010
I like the longer articles, but I think frequency of posts is more critical than volume. In other words, if I am only going to get 2800 words from you in a week, I think I’d rather have 7 posts of 400 words than 2 posts of 1400 words. Give me 5-7 posts/wk and you can name the length.
Survey data is rarely useful. No one really knows what they want. Too many irrational decision makers.
The accepted overpay is the same story for the Knicks. Knickerblogger and various other blogs and journalists have said “Amar’e is overpaid, but it is ok because it is needed to show LeBron we are serious.”
Are the contracts of Smith and Johnson going to make Horford available?
Do I have to keep my comments to 400 words?
arturogalletti
July 7, 2010
Bags,
Yeah, They need to get one more big guy (and maybe somebody like Redick or Allen) to make it work.
brgulker
July 7, 2010
Based on the rumors, it would appear Miami knows this. They’re actively shopping Beasley in hopes of getting Haywood (Dallas ain’t gonna do it, but still says something about Miami). And they’ll have a little over $11 million in space after signing Bosh, enough to add at least 2 quality pieces still this year.
They won’t be contenders immediately, but they’ll have a solid foundation upon which to build over the next 1-2 seasons.
aduke
July 7, 2010
Re: miami, one thing that just adding up the wp for wade and bosh from last year doesn’t quantify I think is the potential synergy their stats might see if they are playing together rather than on two fairly bad teams. My apologies if this is accounted for somehow, but it seems to me that a star perimeter player and a star post player whose games complement each other, on a team who they at least may believe to be a playoff contender, may combine to produce more wins together than they would have independently on non-contender teams.
I guess there are two components to what I’m describing: synergy between stars with complementary games and greater effort due to (at least perceived) contender status
arturogalletti
July 7, 2010
Jarod Dudley just tweeted Lebron to NYK
nerdnumbers
July 7, 2010
Arturo,
If that’s true then my day will be made if Melo demands a S+T to NY, Denver gets Lee + picks in return and the world is shocked when next year NY only wins 45 games and falls in the first round to Orlando.
bags fly free
July 7, 2010
how can lebron play with melo if they are both SFs? although lebron is more than capable of becoming magic johnson and playing PG heavily to make room for both of them on the court. moving either one of them to PF/SG position wouldn’t make sense to me.
arturogalletti
July 7, 2010
Bags,
I don’t buy the Melo to NYK if they get LBJ.
I think parker and maybe something like Chandler or Jermaine O’Neal is more likely.
Knicks get Lebron stock is way up at intrade. Also Lebron presser from Greenwich,CT.
robbieomalley
July 7, 2010
FWIW,
Jay Z owns a home in Greenwich, CT. However, I’m sure Jay Z owns many homes in many places.
bags fly free
July 7, 2010
@jadande Boozer to Bulls is “done deal” via his twitter
arturogalletti
July 7, 2010
chadfordinsider
Bulls agree to 5 yr, $80 mil deal with Carlos Boozer. Bulls still have enough cap space to sign a max player.
nerdnumbers
July 7, 2010
Chicago and Orlando are easily top two out east. If Cleveland holds Lebron then the top three are wicked strong. However, if Bron goes to NY then we have to wonder if NY and Miami can actually sign the right players to win the extra 20 games needed to be contenders.
ilikeflowers
July 7, 2010
LeBron’s gotta go to Chi-town now. That’s a championship team. They’ll be a solid playoff team even without LBJ.
Boozer will be 250+ for a few more years
Noah’s already 250+
Rose should get to somewhere between 150 and 250
Deng and Gibson are 100+
Law and Hinrich are just shy of 100
Add LBJ at 400 and even with some diminishing returns that’s next season’s champ easy. There won’t be any possible playoff issues from having only one superstar.
robbieomalley
July 7, 2010
http://robbieomalley.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/lebrons-lechoices/
I pretty much just copied the numbers from Dre’s site. So they might not be the most accurate but it gives you an idea of the situation.
arturogalletti
July 7, 2010
Rob,
Your post rocks.I’m so jealous.
ilikeflowers
July 7, 2010
It’d be pretty sick if LBJ and Mike Miller went to Chicago. Heck, Chicago would be one of next year’s favorites to win it all if they just signed Miller.
arturogalletti
July 7, 2010
How about the Nets, David Lee, LBJ and a mid level guy (Ray Allen or Mike Miller)
Lebron can get it really right in Chicago or New Jersey, right in Miami or Cleveland (maybe) and oh so wrong in New York.
ilikeflowers
July 7, 2010
Looking at their roster, if Cleveland allocates their minutes better than Mike Brown did, even without LBJ they’d still have
C – Varejao 180+
PF – Jamison 180+
SF – Moon 180+
SG – West @120
PG – Williams @120
If Powe can return to his 250 form they could win 55+ games without LBJ. Add in LBJ and move Moon to SG and you have a team that could push for 70.
Alvy
July 7, 2010
Okay, so if Boozer goes to Chicago, while LeBron to the Knicks, and the duo of Bosh and Wade are in Miami, then I feel better about the Lakers chances of three-peating. I mean, as construct non of these teams can get pass the Celtics or Magic.
John Giagnorio
July 7, 2010
The Knicks have Eddy Curry’s expiring contract and, by my rough count, around 6 million in cap space after signing Lebron James. If they get him, I’m guessing they’ll do just fine filling out the rest of the roster.
Tony
July 9, 2010
Just want to chime in and say I come to this site bacause Iike your style, I haven’t apprecited your shorter posts, as much.