Arturo Galletti is an electrical engineer and statistician by education (masters in electrical and computer engineering), by vocation (he was worked across the past ten years for the US government — as well as Baxter and Johnson & Johnson — to convert data into information and improvement actions), and by passion (Minitab is great for stress relief and winning fantasy leagues). He was born and lives in Puerto Rico. But his undergrad years were spent in Boston and he bleeds Celtic green.
8 million stories out there and they’re naked, city it’s a pity half of y’all won’t make it-Jay-Z
When we unveiled our metric for GM ranking in the NBA (in the post The Value Proposition in the NBA), we ranked every team according in front office performance from 2005 thru 2010. The New York Knickerbockers ranked last five of the six years examined, and avoided the sweep because of the particular savvy of David Khan and the tragedy that was the Washington Wizards.
As dark as it got for Knick fans, there was still hope at Madison Square Garden. Their Knicks had a plan. They cleared out their historically deficient front-office. They were going to clear all their cap space for the magical summer of 2010. They brought in the coach who made the game beautiful again. The bright lights of New York and the promise of the hardcourts in the Big City would deliver to the Big Apple the kind of basketball it deserved.
But the Knicks plans did not survive first contact with the enemy. They did not get their man. Now normally as a follower of Boston teams, I would be happy at the misery of any New York team. But to me, the Knicks are different. Their fans know and respect the game. They know misery and have suffered for their glory. For fans of the game, having the Knicks be good makes the league better.
Sadly, when the smoke cleared, we all know how the story ended. Or do we?
Even thought the Knicks missed with their plan A they ably implemented a Plan B (or was it C?) that allowed them to overhaul their roster and significantly improve. But I’m getting ahead of myself. Before we talk about who the Knicks will be let’s talk about who they were.
These were your New York Knicks:
39, 33, 23, 33, 23, 32 & 29, those are not Powerball numbers, those are the win totals for the Knicks over the last seven years. To put it in perspective, that’s only better than the Bobcats by 22 games and the Bobcats only existed for six of those years. The Knicks achieved this dubious won-loss record with the league’s highest payroll. These teams were overpaid disasters and the 2010 edition — as the following table illustrates — was no exception.
If you look at the table above you’ll see that twenty players suited up for the Knicks in the 2009-10 season. And six of these actually produced in the negative range. Fortunately for the Knicks, five of these six “negative producers” will not play in New York next year. In fact, the Knicks are only bringing back five players from last year’s squad (Wilson Chandler, Bill Walker, Toney Douglas, Daniel Gallinari and Eddy Curry remain under contract). To put the roster purge in perspective, last year the Knicks generated 31 wins. But as the graph below illustrates, 25 of these wins have departed. With only a few wins remaining on the roster, the Knicks had a hard road to rebuild into a contender.
Plan B
While they have missed on the King, the Knicks got their big man in Amare Stoudamaire. They may have slightly overpaid for him, but for them “slightly overpaying” is progress. To fill out their roster they turned their best player (David Lee) into multiple pieces from Golden State. They then signed an above average point guard in Raymond Felton and an intriguing piece from Russia (Timofey Mozgov). Timofey Mozgov is a 7’1”russian Center who is well loved by DraftExpress (ranked #2 for overseas free agents). While a bit of a gamble, it’s a shrewd move for them because…. okay, let’s face it, anything is better than playing Eddy Curry.
East Coast Seven Seconds or Less?
To project this team’s wins in 2010-11, we need to do two things: project out their productivity and guess how the minutes will be divided.
For the productivity projection, I looked at the raw productivity numbers (AdjP48) for the last four years, but primarily employed last year’s numbers (with a small adjustment for age based on avg. change at the age and position). These same steps were taken for each player. The lone exceptions are as follows:
For Amare Stoudamire I used the 2nd-half numbers from 2010 (0.470 ADJP48- Age adjustment). I believe this is an accurate representation of what he will do next season.
For Kelenna Azubuike… given the low minutes in 2010, I used the average of 2008 and 2009 for his numbers.
And for the rookies, I’ve adjusted their numbers to get a WP48 for the Position played.
The productivity numbers are as follows:
Now let’s guess at minutes played. Here, I again looked at historical data for each player and tried to logically allocate the team’s minutes. It’s important to note that this process is far from perfect. There is also one big caveat (in more ways than one). Some reports indicate that Eddy Curry is out of the rotation. So it is assumed for this projection that Curry will not be playing.
Beyond the issue of Curry, it is important to remember that there is no way to project injuries. Injuries will happen in the NBA. So a summer forecast will probably overstate a team’s actual results. In other words, the summer forecast is often just a “best-case scenario.”
Okay, enough caveats. Let’s try and make New York fans happy.
As the above table indicates, the numbers for the Knicks suggest this team could win 48 games in 2009-10. Such a leap can be traced to the
- elimination of negative producers
- the addition of Amare Stoudemire, Raymond Felton, Kelenna Azubuike, and Anthony Randolph (players who more than make up for the loss of David Lee)
- Eddy Curry always wearing a really nice suit on the bench.
So according to my numbers the Knicks – despite missing on LeBron – might have actually built a playoff team. This is also a very young and athletic team, that has a decent chance of having one of their young players (Walker, Gallinari or Randolph) make a significant leap in productivity.
Plan C:
The final point I want to touch on is that the Knicks are also holding out the hope that if they build a good enough team, they can use their assets and cap room to bring in a free agent ( like Chris Paul) over the next two summers. I think they have done a surprisingly good job given their track record. And I do hope for their sake, that when they dip back into the free agent market they don’t undo all the progress they’ve made as an organization.
My personal take is that this is a team that will look very much like the D’Antoni Suns of yesteryear. It’s a young, fun and athletic bunch that will bring excitement and fun back to the basketball temple that is Madison Square Garden. And that is true, even if I don’t see them making a lot of noise in the playoffs. To paraphrase Jay-z and Alicia Keys: “Let’s hear it for New York, New York, New York”
– Arturo Galletti
sportsfanatic613
August 3, 2010
Nice job summarizing what the Knicks have accomplished during this off season. Nevertheless, their front office again failed to achieve the most with the amount of cap space that they had. More should have been done to improve the team. The only signing the I liked was the signing of Raymond Felton for $8 million per season. By signing Amare Stoudemire for $100 million over 5 yrs and then doing the sign and trade with David Lee for Kelena Azabuike, Ronny Turiaf and Anthony Randolph, the Knicks are better than last year, but would have been better by keeping Lee and instead of signing Stoudemire, they signed others, such as Josh Childress, Matt Barnes, Ronnie Brewer and Fabricio Oberto(just because they need a center). Yes, the Knicks will be better, but they had so much more potential this off season and Donnie Walsh blew the opportunity.
marparker
August 3, 2010
I have my doubts about Feltons and Walker. You made a great point about losing the negative producers. Also , I think Landry Fields is going to be pretty productive.
I just don’t think the Knicks can get a rotation together good enough to approach 50 wins.
khandor
August 3, 2010
aturogalletti,
1. Did the Knicks not sign and trade David Lee for Randolph, Turiaf and Azubuike?
If they did, is it not the production values of all three of these players which should be used to determine whether, or not … and, possibly, by how much … New York may have improved this summer, in comparison with the production numbers of David Lee, exclusively?
2. Should the simple exchange of UFAs Amare Stoudemire for Al Harrington be viewed in a similar way?
3. Should the simple exchange of Landry Fields for Tracy McGrady be viewed in a similar way?
Next year’s New York Knicks should be able to win more games than last year’s version, if Mike D’Antoni actually does his job properly.
John Giagnorio
August 3, 2010
“Next year’s New York Knicks should be able to win more games than last year’s version, if Mike D’Antoni actually does his job properly.”
Way to slip in that bit at the end to prevent your prediction from being wrong!
arturogalletti
August 3, 2010
khandor,
I looked at the entire roster for the knicks, their past performance and predicted future performance based on age. I added in the same for minute allocation. Shook everything and stirred and came up with the prediction above. I expect that there’s some risk there (injuries, Edy Curry) and some upside (young players coming up aces) but 45 wins + is a range I would feel pretty confortable betting for this team.
Edmond
August 3, 2010
Great post.
Khandor,
How many wins does Basketball Acumen project?
Tom Mandel
August 3, 2010
Looks good, and like you I believe the NBA is better off with a winner in NY.
The only non-intuitive aspect of your final table is that the best 3 players produce @27 of 48 projected wins. I.e. the projection doesn’t reflect the commonly-seen power law effect.
Makes you fear that somehow Eddie Curry will see the court for significant minutes? :)
khandor
August 3, 2010
re: How many wins does Basketball Acumen project?
methinks Basketball Acumen knows enough about the game to wait until a later date … e.g. when the rosters for NBA teams are mostly complete … to make an accurate Total Wins projection for any specific team.
khandor
August 3, 2010
re: “Next year’s New York Knicks should be able to win more games than last year’s version, if Mike D’Antoni actually does his job properly.”
Way to slip in that bit at the end to prevent your prediction from being wrong!
Actually … not being wrong is irrelevant. Being right is what counts.
Edmond
August 3, 2010
Yeah, I usually make my regular season predictions early-to-mid April.
Shawn Ryan
August 3, 2010
“methinks Basketball Acumen knows enough about the game to wait until a later date … e.g. when the rosters for NBA teams are mostly complete … to make an accurate Total Wins projection for any specific team.”
but then we wouldn’t have anything to read in the doldrums of summer.
BTW,
“Next year’s New York Knicks should be able to win more games than last year’s version, if Mike D’Antoni actually does his job properly.”
is not a cop-out. A team can have the pieces, but if it doesn’t play them, they aren’t going to reach their potential.
arturogalletti
August 3, 2010
Khandor,
I know it’s a risk but I wanted to do the exercise of actually building a model. If the roster changes so be it. I’ll update and make a new projection. I plan on posting a projection for every team (as part of the proposed throwdown). It looks like fun.
reservoirgod
August 3, 2010
Arturo:
Feeding Knick fans hope is like feeding monkeys at the zoo – they just go apesh*t. And that’s not good for anybody.
On a more serious note, Bill Walker won’t start over Wilson Chandler. He’s the incumbent & I don’t see D’Antoni giving his spot to a 2nd rd draft pick that’s bounced back & forth from the D-League. And I have to reiterate my concerns from the GSW post a few weeks ago – Turiaf, Azubuike & Randolph are nearly locks to miss a ton of games. Knick fans better hope Walsh can find some of those productive D-Leaguers Andres Perezchica wrote about. 45 wins? I’ll take the under.
arturogalletti
August 3, 2010
rg,
Walker played 27 minutes a game for the knicks last season and started 13 games out of 27. I figure the depth chart is Gallinari over Chandler at SF and Walker over Azubuike at SG. If it’s Chandler that get’s the most minutes over Walker and Azubuike it costs them about 2.5 wins (assuming none of them actually makes a productivity jump). I think at least one of the young players will improve (or the russian will be good) so I like 45+ as a good number.
Italian Stallion
August 3, 2010
Arturo,
As you probably know, I am borderline obsessed with the Knicks.
I think you did an outstanding job.
A lot will depend on the development of the young players, but at a minimum this is team is going to be a lot more fun to watch than in recent years.
Italian Stallion
August 3, 2010
I should add one thing in the Chandler/Walker debate that I’ve mentioned previously .
Chandler was coming off summer surgery and wasn’t even close to 100% at the start of the season. He also had the green light to shoot 3 pointers to start the season despite being a poor outside shooter (an attempt at development).
That combination made for a horrific first couple of months.
But something happened right after that.
He got healthy, starting using his athleticism to get to the hoop, and dramatically reduced his 3 point attempts. The result was a dramatic improvement in his scoring efficiency. He maintained it for long enough for me to think he was finally figuring it all out (until he got hurt again).
If you judge him from that turning point forward, I think you can conclude that the new improved version of Chandler was better than Walker and could easily make a reasonable contribution to wins even without further development of his handle and outside shot.
arturogalletti
August 3, 2010
IS,
We were actually thinking this would make you very,very happy as we wrote it. Everyone on this team is 27 or younger and given that only Felton and Amare are established,I do think there will be ample opportunity to get playing time. I really like Randolph though. Here’s three 20 year olds PF that had similar numbers:
Player Adjp48
Randolph .426
Garnett .402
Al Jefferson .387
Tyrus Thomas .386
Very nice names no?
John Giagnorio
August 3, 2010
It’s definitely a cop out. If the Knicks under perform, Khandor has given himself the “out” of D’Antoni’s failure. If he meant minute allocation, he could’ve easily used the same disclaimer everyone else around here uses.
I will admit that this is an improvement over khandor’s usual strategy of not making any public predictions and then coming back and telling us all he was right. Or, as Edmond implied, making regular season predictions in April and playoff predictions in late June.
arturogalletti
August 3, 2010
IS,
His numbers (Chandler’s) were up in March. I think choosing between young guards/forwards with potential is a very different world for the Knicks than they’ve seen in the past decade. They might actually have some assets to work with in the future and not just ridiculous contracts (all apologies to Curry’s very nice suit)
By the way, the only better 20 year old PF that I could find? DeJuan Blair at .526 Adjp48 . So Randolph is the second best 20 year old PF I could find (and Blair continues to be just ridiculous).
John Giagnorio
August 3, 2010
To actually contribute something to the discussion, I also really like Randolph, and the Knicks seem open minded enough to actually give him a chance. I still wonder what might’ve been with Tyrus Thomas…
khandor
August 3, 2010
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re: I will admit that this is an improvement over khandor’s usual strategy of not making any public predictions and then coming back and telling us all he was right. – John Giagnorio
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Au contraire …
As you can plainly see, i.e. Exhibit A, Hoping for a plan in Atlanta; and, Exhibit B, Pointing fingers at the Miami Heat, the forecasts which I make are made in advance. cheers
Edmond
August 4, 2010
I see conjectures about the intentions of those teams respective ownerships: (Ill do this Khandor style, with numbered points and “supporting quotes” just for fun :) )
1. “IMO, the Hawks are not banking on achieving a higher Regular Season Games Won Total this year. ”
2. “IMO, this year’s Heat team had no such intention.”
–but nothing in the way of an actual prediction about how well those teams would fare.
Gotta hand it to you though–you can equivocate with the best of them. My guess is that you’re either a lawyer or a writer of self-help business books in real life (just for your sheer ability to make content-free assertions sound profound– “Each game of basketball in the NBA has 3 distinct phases…”)
reservoirgod
August 4, 2010
Arturo:
Stop feeding the Knick fans!
Everyone else:
In defense of khandor, D’Antoni hasn’t done the best job since he’s come to NYC. He benched a productive Nate Robinson in 2010 (despite the fact he was the 2nd most productive player on the team in 2009), has employed some VERY questionable substitution patterns & lineups and had the team flat out quit on him in SEVERAL games (Dallas being the most egregious from last year – I think they were the 1st team to actually score negative points in that game it was so bad). So I actually think khandor’s right to throw in the D’Antoni caveat. It got so bad last year that reporters started calling for him to be replaced and Walsh had to issue a statement on his behalf.
I’m interested in what Italian Stallion thinks of D’Antoni’s coaching job so far.
dan fitz
August 4, 2010
I am not a statistically competetent but the numbers you have for some of these guys seems really high. Raymond Felton , you have as Adj WP48 as .31. Daves number from one of his articles after was .08WP48 for 08-09 season and .146 for 69 games of last season. I know that is unadjusted but is the adjustment that big. Stoudemaire you have as .436 Adj WP48. Dave has been pounding the table that Stoudemaire is overrated. I get your point he played good at the end of last year. But was that an impending contract push. Ronnie Turiaf you have as a .406 ADj WP48. From the article “What if Don Nelson Embraced Tradition?” his WP is .056. Again is the adjustment that big. IS he that good. Again I am sure I am showing my statistical ignorance. And Randolf and the new russian could be great for the Knicks. So maybe. I am a rabid Knick fan so I hope you are right. Can anyone reconcile this article with Dave’s article called “Did LeBron Avoid the Pressure of New York?” Here is the win numbers he has on his idea of the starting five: Toney Douglas: 0.083
Wilson Chandler: 0.092
Danilo Gallinari: 0.040
Amare Stoudemire: 0.170
Ronny Turiaf: 0.063
I guess that is my problem. Dave isnt sure if they are going to make the playoffs and you are thinking maybe 50 games. It seems like a big difference.
szr
August 4, 2010
I would love your next analysis to be about the wizards. I did a quick calculation using the 11 man roster they have, plus gave a very generous prediction of Wall’s productivity and came up with a hair over 25 wins. Of course, this assumes Arenas stays healthy and out of jail and they never play nick young or al thorton.
arturogalletti
August 4, 2010
Dan,
Felton’s numbers are:
Year Pos Adj ADJP48 WP48
08-09 0.249 0.245 0.095
09-10 0.247 0.320 0.172
Amare I have as a WP48 .174 (good but not great). Turiaf is a .075 in the projection (below average). The adjusment for big men is pretty big (go here for more detail http://wp.me/pYIAy-4x and here http://wp.me/pYIAy-2P). For projecting Wins for a team WP48 is misleading, you need to look at raw productivity (ADJP48) and figure out the minute allocation. For example, I have Gallinari with about the same productivity (ADJP48) but he gets a bump in WP48 because he won’t play any PF now so all his minutes come from SF.
My math was checked by the editor though :-)
Tom Mandel
August 4, 2010
Wow — if the Wiz win 25 games, I’ll be *very happy,* and even happier if they trade Gilbert somehow at the deadline.
You know they’re going to play Thornton a fair amount. He’ll probably start, for that matter, until Howard can play again (and when will *that* be?).
szr
August 4, 2010
My dream for the Wizards would be to send Nick Young, Hilton Armstrong and Al Thornton somewhere (anywhere) for a PF who doesn’t produce negative wins. I’ll take a 9-man roster over one which includes those three players.
But the roster is all messed up. Between a glut of PGs, terrible SGs and PFs, and a weak set of centers (Oh god, please don’t play Hilton Armstrong! He was literally the worst center in the NBA last year), I’m having a hard time understanding what Grunfeld has to do to get fired.
khandor
August 4, 2010
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re: –but nothing in the way of an actual prediction about how well those teams would fare. – Edmond
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1. You wouldn’t want me to link to entries on my own blog now, would you?
2. The prediction in the case of last year’s Atlanta Hawks was not for a specific Win Total. It pertained to the manner in which the Hawks would go about the operation of their franchise last season, i.e. not really trying to win the championship but simply trying to hold steady with their position in the EC.
The prediction for the Miami Heat pertained to the way their season would go last year, in general … and, then … KABOOM! … what their summer of 2010 would look like.
Are you, seriously, trying to suggest that what I wrote in that thread, in December 2009, somehow, turned out to be wrong? :-)
khandor
August 4, 2010
reservoirgod,
Thanks.
arturogalletti
August 4, 2010
szr,
This is what I said about the wiz in my mega free agent wrap-up (click my name if interested):
“Washington : Same as Cleveland,pretty much no one is walking through that door. Dan Gilbert take note, this team has already blown it up and is building through the draft. 1 players for about $4 million per year that netted an average of 3 wins per year for the last three years. My Grade: B because the first step is to accept that we are powerless”
This is a bad team. This might be a historically bad team (Their bigs are horrid, every guy who get minutes at C has put in negative value seasons according to wins produced go look it). I may need to write something on these guys as they could conceivably be the worst team(record wise) we’ve ever seen.
BV
August 4, 2010
Anthony Randolph could be the wild-card here – given the right coaching and passion, he could blossom into an All-star…
Curious
August 4, 2010
Why are all pictures with data so small? Am I the only who have trouble reading those numbers?
ilikeflowers
August 4, 2010
It looks like the C’s might be able to contend again next year with some luck. The O’Neals are a big improvement over Wallace and Davis, Rondo is just now entering his prime, and KG is a year older but also two years removed from his knee injury so his production may hold steady. The key will be whether or not Perkins is fully recovered in time for the playoffs. It’s possible that their top 8 for the playoff’s will be better than last year.
Nick
August 4, 2010
@ilikeflowers:
I would REALLY like to see the C’s give Delonte West a look in FA, or take a shot at T-Mac.
If Delonte can return to their old form, they might have enough to be the #2 contender in the East. At which point, you’re giving yourself a shot in a 7 game series with the Heat, which is all I want as a C’s fan.
arturogalletti
August 4, 2010
Curious,
Click and zoom.
Nick,
Agreed. Tmac & Delonte both would help.
dberri
August 4, 2010
I agree on the pictures. One advantage of posting links to html documents is that people could read tables with many columns. The pictures are somewhat limited. Not sure — given my technical skills — what we can do about this.
A.S.
August 4, 2010
I also don’t see Walker playing as much as posited here. Yes, Walker started some games at the end of the season — only after Chandler, T-Mac, and any other starter-level 2-guards were hurt. When Walker was starting games, his competition for playing time was JR Giddens, Sergio Rodriguez and Toney Douglas. Walker never once started ahead of Chandler — if they were both healthy, Chandler got the start and the minutes.
You should go look at the game log — Walker basically got minutes because of injury. It is remotely possible, I suppose, that Walker showed a lot to D’Antoni at the end of the season so that he is now on the depth chart ahead of Chandler. But Chandler started 64 of the 65 games in which he played, so I seriously, seriously doubt Walker is ahead of him now based on minutes played when the Knicks were running out the string last year.
To me, the depth chart at SG will likely start the season being: 1. Chandler, 2. Azabuike, 3. Walker.
A.S.
August 4, 2010
Also, I don’t know if it makes a difference to your analysis, but don’t you think Amare is going to be the backup Center? You have him as playing all his minutes at PF, with Randolph as backup C. I would think when they are on the court together, Amare is the C and Randolph the PF.
Andrew
August 4, 2010
Arturo- are you weighting the performance of the players when you calculate mins, WP48 etc.
Or are you using last years numbers and adjusting for age?
reservoirgod
August 4, 2010
Delonte & T-Mac? In the voice of Bill Simmons, “Yeah, because anytime you can sign a certifiably crazy, gun-toting combo guard that sleeps w/ his teammates’ mamas AND a washed up, out-of-shape swingman w/ bad knees – you have to do it!” I’d love to see the brain type for Delonte West… He could break the mold.
arturogalletti
August 4, 2010
AS,
The Azabuike, Chandler, Walker thing will not change the numbers in the long run (I think Chandler and Walker will get better).
Position adjustment does not matter for team win projection (only for Wins by player). As long as Amare and Randolph see the majority of the minutes (and Curry never breaks a sweat) it’ll be OK.
Andrew,
Unless otherwise noted I’m taking last year’s ADJP48 and adjusting for age.
rg,
The Celts need someone to take minutes away from Ray Allen and Pierce to rest their legs. T-Mac is the best you’re going to get and his ceiling is as a starter. Delonte is a better fit at SG but he’s a productive player. To quote Simmons: “You can have one crazy guy in the locker room”
reservoirgod
August 4, 2010
Touche, Arturo! But didn’t Doc Rivers say the Celtics already had a crazy locker room? And I think Simmons needs to amend that theory in honor of Arenas & the Wizards. You can have 1 crazy guy in the locker room, but you can’t have one crazy guy in the locker room w/ a gun. Especially if that gun is taller than Nate Robinson & carried in a guitar case.
Another question – you said the Wizards could be historically bad. You don’t mean as bad as that negative-wins produced Mavs team do you?
arturogalletti
August 4, 2010
rg,
I LOL so hard. I’m pretty sure Nate could jump over it though.
And I did mean that they could be that bad. One thing that we always forget is that the quality of the league changes over time. I think next season is going to be a high point for the league and all the position adjustments will be up. The wizard have the chance of having their entire frontcourt post negative Wins. Add to that the possibility that Wall is Iverson 2.0 and the fact that they play in a division with 4 probable playoff teams (Miami,Orlando,Charlotte & Atlanta)? I see ugly,ugly possibilities. Most losses and Largest Margin of victory might be in play. I’m definitely writing a post on them.
Nick
August 5, 2010
@reservoirgod:
I would rather be given 35-40 mins a game to “a certifiably crazy, gun-toting combo guard that sleeps w/ his teammates’ mamas” and “a washed up, out-of-shape swingman w/ bad knees” rather than any of the following options.
a) Play Allen & Pierce excessive mins, and risk injury, and exhaustion.
b) Play Avery Bradley & Marquis Daniels at the wing for 35-40 mins a game.
Delonte while bi-polar, is a productive basketball player. Still young enough to contribute, and a good enough shooter, and defender to fit what the C’s need off the bench.
And McGrady, is a guy, who if he can suck it up, and realize his best hope is to be Grant Hill 2.0 at this point, can possibly still be productive. He was an 0.107 player in 07-08…and that was arguably playing hurt. He’s older now, but I think he’s worth a shot. The C’s can afford another minimum salary veteran. Plus he’d fit right in with the roster.
Could you imagine this team in 2003?
Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O’Neal, Shaquille O’Neal, Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace (still not retired yet I don’t think)
The old vets vs. the new studs. Wouldn’t you love to watch the creaky old vets give the Heat a run in the playoffs?
reservoirgod
August 5, 2010
Celtics fans:
I’m telling you… I know what the numbers say, but I was sitting baseline in MSG when McGrady played his 1st game for the Knicks – he’s done as an NBA player. I know that one of the objectives of this blog is to illustrate the irrational decisions people make in sports… But I think it speaks volumes that nobody’s signed T-Mac after his workout tour. On this issue, I have to trust what my eyes actually saw, not what the numbers say they could see.
reservoirgod
August 5, 2010
Wow, Arturo. I look fwd to your Wizards post. After the trade deadline last season, Kornheiser said they won’t win 20 games but I never thought they’d be as bad as the Nets.