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This week we give you not just one but two podcast!
- Dave Berri talks Parity, a player’s league and the flimsiness of the owners’ claims
- Arturo Galletti explains the NBA books, how a player’s league could work and how the owners are winning
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Dave Berri talks Parity, a players league and the owners
- Ian Levy did a nice break down of how ESPN writers think the NBA looks. Turns out this isn’t fair from the truth and that means parity isn’t really possible.
- Peter Keating (insider access needed) discusses the possibility of a players league using information from none other than our own Dave Berri, who explains how having all of the players locked out could actually be a plus: “Even in the ABA, which had Dr. J and George Gervin, most of the players were nobodies, but the best players could be in the new league”
- The NBA owners position just isn’t as strong as they’re making it out to be. The players should be questioning this.
- In the 1970s when the NBA had parity, fans were lucky enough to watch the finals on tape delay.
Arturo talks how the owners are winning
- Here’s a look at the numbers behind the owners position. Arturo stresses it’s not illegal or wrong how they do accounting but in their best interest to take a loss.
- Arturo was one of the first proponents of a players league and even had a breakdown for it.
- Arturo broke down how the lockout affects the players and the news isn’t good. Caving is a good option.
- Finally, Arturo broke down the cold hard facts of the NBA lockout and why the owners stance is smart.
Music?
Dave suggested an intro and end music theme. I offered him the option of selecting it. As Dave mentions in the podcast though he has taken a more managerial role. As such he delegated the decision to the fans. If you have any good suggestions for a theme we could put on the podcast (without worrying about royalty fees) let us know. Arturo started the suggestions with Beethoven’s Fifth with Cannons :)
-Dre
Posted in: Basketball Stories
Wages of Wins Journal 
wiLQ
October 25, 2011
“A lot of coaches get fired having guaranteed contracts too. I’m curious how much money the NBA has collectively lost just firing coaches. […] there’s an interesting thing to look up: how many dead coaches’ contracts are there out there and how much of that 300 millions they claim to be losing can be tied to dead coaches’ contract.”
By using my own data, ignoring any non-obvious buy-outs and considering only salaries for the full seasons I came up with around 200M$ in the last 8 years although lately it slowed down because in the last 2 years it was “only” 6,5M$ and 17M$ respectively.
Dre
October 25, 2011
wiLQ,
Awesome! Do you have your sources. This was something that greatly interested me I just don’t have the data readily available. It’s also the fact that coach firing is just dumb. It reminds me of punting on fourth down. Popular media essentially just accepts a team performing poorly will eventually fire the coach. As I mentioned on the podcast it even defies their take on reality. “Good coach, bad team, they’ll be fired” – wait, what? This has been phrased as a dumb decision but at the same time accepted.
wiLQ
October 25, 2011
“Do you have your sources. This was something that greatly interested me I just don’t have the data readily available.”
I meant this: http://weaksideawareness.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/salary-and-contracts-of-nba-coaches/ so it’s “my” data in a sense that I’ve collected it ;-)
“It’s also the fact that coach firing is just dumb”
Usually yes but here’s another thing: coaches are fired easily and often while GMs, who are cheaper, actually responsible for rosters and their mistakes are very visible in the books, are surprisingly rarely fired. How the hell is that possible?
Are they so good at blaming other parts of the organization like coaches?
Mark Wylie
October 25, 2011
On iTunes is the Wages of Wins Podcast feed replacing the Sports Talk and Statistics with the Super Stats Expert Team and the Real Fans?
Dre
October 25, 2011
Mark,
Yes the old feed was one I did sort of by hand and it was very slow. The new one is through Big Contact and makes it much easier to update/upload so that’s what we’ll be using.
mosiplatt
November 1, 2011
Arturo’s commentary is funny… He said we should be hearing about players talking to talent agencies, but we haven’t. Then he said we’ve heard Amare talking about the players starting their own league.
Huh? Didn’t he just contradict himself? What about the rumor the agents were facilitating a deal where the players play out the NBA schedule with their existing rosters?
The under-estimation of the NBPA by damn near EVERYONE is amazing to me. LMAO.
NBA Lockout… where amazing happens.