Arturo Galletti, Andres Alvarez, and I were planning on presenting a wealth of material on the 2010 NBA draft. But time has run out and our plans were not realized (but we have high hopes for 2011!!!). At this point, all there is time to do is to present the Position Adjusted Win Score per 40 minute (PAWS40) numbers for the players Yahoo!Sports think will get drafted tonight. (much of ESPN’s coverage is for insiders only)
Before we get to the numbers, let me note that Wins Score per 40 minutes (WS40) for each college player is tracked by DraftExpress. To calculate PAWS40, one needs to know the average performance at each position. From 1995 to 2009, the players selected out of college at each position posted the following average WS40:
PG: 7.40
SG: 8.40
SF: 9.95
PF: 12.59
C: 12.32
The average player across all position had a WS40 of 10.17. With these numbers in hand, we can calculate each player’s PAWS40. For example, point guard John Wall has a WS40 of 7.2 in 2009-10. So his PAWS40 would be…
John Wall PAWS40 = (7.2–7.4) + 10.17 = 10.0
A mark of 10.0 is just about average for a player selected out of college from 1995 to 2009. And as I noted back in May, this performance suggests the Wizards needed to put some real thought into the decision to take Wall with the first pick. Yes, the scouts tell us he is clearly a future star. But he did not perform this way as a freshman. Now maybe that was because he was just a freshman. Or maybe he isn’t quite as good as people believe.
Just looking at PAWS40 is not going to give you that answer. As was noted in The Wages of Wins (in the discussion of Wins Produced): “Knowing the value of each player is only the starting point of analysis. The next step is determining why the player is productive or unproductive. In our view, this is where coaching should begin. We think we can offer a reasonable measure of a player’s productivity. Although we have offered some insights into why players are productive, ultimately this question can only be answered by additional scrutiny into the age and injury status of the player, the construction of a team, and the roles the player plays on the floor.”
Okay, with that paragraph in mind, let’s look at all the players Yahoo! thinks will get drafted.
Here are the players from the mock of the first round:
And here are the players from the mock of the second round:
In Stumbling on Wins (plugged both books in one post!!!), we examine the NBA Draft. What we found is that some factors that don’t impact future performance (i.e. Final Four appearances, relative height, etc…) do impact where a player is drafted. And rebounds (which we looked at a number of different ways), a factor that is related to future performance, is not related to where a player is chosen (and again, we looked at rebounds a variety of ways and the story was the same).
So it appears people in the NBA could do better on draft night. In fact, we note that if all you looked at were the college numbers, you would project future performance better in the NBA than you would by just noting where a player is selected. That being said, the link between college numbers and NBA performance is not perfect. Yes, there is a statistical link. Players who do well in college tend to do better in the NBA. But it is possible for players who do well in college to play poorly in the NBA. And it is possible (although this is not a common occurrence) for a player to play poorly in college and then play well in the NBA.
Again, Arturo, Andres, and I hope to do more before next year’s draft. At least, I hope by 2011 we can make more definitive statements about each player. For now, though, hope these numbers help you enjoy the 2010 draft.
– DJ
P.S. Robbie O’Malley – at his blog (which I think has been re-designed) – also provides this analysis. So one can also go to Robbie’s blog and discuss the 2010 draft.
Dre
June 24, 2010
I think Grunfeld will have to be done after this season. However, Saunders has already been used as an excuse for a team under-performing (I think Detroit would trade back to back ECF for their current situation).
Arturo’s article shows an average #1 pick gets a little under 6 wins a year their rookie contract. Not to mention we’ve seen first year greatness is rare. When your hopes are “our rookies will be awesome” or “Our duel challenging injured PG will come back better than ever”. . . . your season may not be bright.
I’ve also got to say the coolest draft article I’ve read this year as Robbie’s Draft this Not That! post.
Dre
June 24, 2010
Typo correction, that should say an average #1 pick gets a little under 6 wins a year their rookie contract.
Dre
June 24, 2010
Sigh. Try two.
Typo correction an average #1 pick gets a little under 9 wins a year their rookie contract.
Joe
June 24, 2010
Can’t wait till next year’s analysis.
I suppose now that the holes are being filled Erich is moving on. Always enjoyed the articles, Erich.
Erich
June 24, 2010
Thank you for the complement, Joe.
Preparing a draft preview is tough work, especially when a basketball writer has to cover the playoffs too. These lists are an excellent resource for tonight’s festivities.
Furthermore, I believe Dave & company will provide far greater analysis over time than I have had in the past years. I look forward to this summer’s content in addition to their 2011 pre-draft effort.
robbieomalley
June 24, 2010
Dre, thanks for the shoutout. It’s weird actually having people read what you’re writing. But I guess if you build it (and it’s decent) they will come. This is a good time of year to have a lot of free time.
Anyway, I added some of my own analysis to accompany the numbers charts. So if anyone is interested please feel free to click on my name.
or
http://robbieomalley.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/position-adjusted-win-score-charts/
Joe
June 24, 2010
Erich,
For sure. I just miss the level of detail for this year. It would be great to see how these guys perform against top 100 teams, etc.
I’m sure that next year is going to be fantastic, though. And with the direction my Sixers are going, they seem to be heading for a similar draft position next year…
szr
June 24, 2010
Ugh. As a Wizards fan, I’m really annoyed it seems all but given we’re going to take John Wall. I wish we’d landed the third pick instead of the 1st, then we might actually draft Cousins, who was the more productive player.
Yes, Leonsis could surprise me with a better pick, but I’m seriously concerned about next season.
Also, I don’t understand why everyone in the Wizards organization is so impressed with Nick Young. He’s an inefficient shooter, who shoots a lot of shots, and is a turnover machine to boot.
Arturo
June 24, 2010
Love the PAWS40 stuff. I really like the fact that it matches some of my eyeball evaluation. I remember watching Zoubek dominate defensively in the tournament and thinking that he was going to be defensive, rebounding steal for someone. I’d love to have him on the Celtics. He’s the 5th best by PAWS40, he got his numbers in the ACC, he played big in the tournament and he looks mean.
Alvy
June 24, 2010
Thanks for, what I believe to be useful posts, prior to tonight’s draft! Now, I’m just wondering how the Clippers are going to mess this up.
NYsportsGUY
June 24, 2010
I love this type of analysis and BIG fan of Stumbling on Wins.
Any chance we can’t get this type of analysis on Andy Rautins?
joni
June 26, 2010
tank,for your info